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Meeting Minutes
ISO/TC 184/SC 5/WG 1: 2003-January-21/23
Quality Inn & Suites Golf Resort, Naples, Florida, USA
1. Call to order
Jim Nell, WG 1 Convenor, opened the meeting at 0915 on 2003-January-21.
Attending were:
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Yuliu Chen |
Tsinghua University, China |
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Kurt Kosanke |
CIMOSA Assn., Germany |
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Jim Nevins |
Self, USA |
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Ted Williams |
Self, USA |
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Richard Martin |
Tinwisle Corp., USA |
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Michiko Matsuda |
SC5 WG4 Convenor |
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Jim Nell |
SC5 WG 1 Convenor |
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Greg Winchester |
SC5 WG 1 Secretary |
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Em dela Hostria |
SC 5 Chairman |
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Jim Nell compiled these minutes using notes by Richard Martin.
Minutes of the Valencia meeting (WG1 N445) were approved, pending agreement by Jim Nell and Michiko Matsuda on the wording of the section on the joint meeting between WG4 and WG1.
2. Approval of agenda
The group approved the agenda for the Naples meeting (WG1 N446).
4. Reports of other activities
5. Economic view amendment to ISO 15704
At the Valencia meeting WG1 prepared an initial response to SC5 resolution
SC5 resolution 396 and 407 relating to an economic view for ISO 15704. WG1 will consider any input received with respect to making an economic view a requirement of the ISO 14258 and ISO 15704 standards, and initiate the process to amend the standards accordingly. To date, no written contribution has been received regarding the economic-view issue. This topic arises from resolution 396 of Beijing in 2001. Action: Since no documentation has been received, WG1 will ask China for a few examples of what they mean by an economic view. Then, China should project the examples onto explanations an economic view; such as, a cash-flow model using activity-based costing.At Naples, Professor Yuliu Chen, China, presented slides and discussed issues relevant to the economic view. Entrepreneurs are not attracted to CIM architecture because they need information on economic elements of enterprise operation and re-engineering. Economic factors play a key role in enterprise analysis but these factors are not articulated. Therefore, enterprises should tie their enterprise-reference architecture to economic benefit of operating and changing the enterprise. The number of views the enterprise uses depends upon the number and nature of questions to answer. In addition, the major modeling methods in general use; for example, IDEF-0; are driven by architectures that do not provide for economic content. Attempting to answer questions beyond the scope of a methodology increases model complexity.
Enterprise analyses seek measurements of enterprise performance in the following categories: financial quantitative, non-financial quantitative, and qualitative. Economic analysis is more important at the beginning of the life cycle to evaluate alternative improvement projects, after detail design, and during operation. However, the information to support adequate analyses is often elusive or not directly generated by the enterprise. Therefore, if economic view is mandatory, then some enterprises never can comply because required content is not available. It is also clear that we are seeking full economic views of the enterprise and its environment, such as the market, rather than the financial view or cost view of the enterprise alone.
The system architecture should answer most questions on system integration. Now, we can use it to describe, analyze, and design such enterprise features as organizational structure, resource configuration, decision process, information relationship, and function. However they cannot describe economic information yet. For example, they cannot point out the direct and indirect benefit ensuing from an advanced-technology implementation. Managers need this information to make informed decisions about improving enterprise operation.
In a resource view, there is information on economic elements; for example, physical and human resource cost can be obtained. Sometimes, knowledge cost can be derived as well. But this kind of information cannot cover all economic elements. To answer these questions, it is necessary to provide for an explicit economic view in the architecture.
An economic view will answer different questions at different stages of life cycle of a system-integration-improvement project. Before the implementation, it should present how much money an enterprise should spend when the designed system is implemented. Especially, its analysis should explain if the return is worth the cost. Direct benefit can be derived easily. Here, those indirect benefits should be transferred into calculable indices so that manager can balance between cost and technology. Furthermore, economic view should uncouple benefits of different investments. Thus we can know how every introduction of new technologies affects the enterprise. While implementation, economic view should present methods to trace cost, workload, and return, etc. and presents method to analyze and control these factors. There are justification issues that the economic view should consider. These include: methodologies for determining:
The group consensus was that an economic view is, in the end, the final justification to decide how to best improve enterprise operation. In fact, given requirements for the other enterprise views, the information presented by those views probably should be organized to feed into an overarching view--the economic view. To handle the discussion of the economic view in ISO 15704, the group decided to use the following approach.
6. Future direction for ISO TC184 SC5 WG1
WG1 N433, rev 4, dated 03-01-15, is an NP Entitled: Requirements for establishing information interoperability in manufacturing-enterprise processes. This was updated as a result of discussion at the Valencia meeting. After a WG1 review, the current draft was deemed ready to be sent through the ballot process for SC5 P-member approval.
7. prEN ISO 19439, Framework for enterprise modelling
prEN ISO 19439, Framework for enterprise modelling, a DIS, has been circulated for ballot and several comments from China, France and the US have been received. WG1 addressed these comments, and offered the resolutions to David Shorter, CEN TC310 WG1 convenor, to prepare the document for the FDIS review.
10. Other business
Next meeting: not arranged, although WG1 acknowledges encouragement from SC5 for WG1 to meet in Korea. WG1 had planned to meet in Cheju, however, upon the resignation of the convenor, the group decided to withdraw their request for meeting space for that meeting.
Adjournment
Jim Nell adjourned the meeting at 1700 on 2003-January-23.